2 ou 3 petits coups

PokerStars Game #19584826445: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/08/13 - 10:51:50 (ET)
Table 'Venusia III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: beta77 ($236.65 in chips)
Seat 2: Martom2 ($100 in chips)
Seat 3: eDD[19]~)L ($157.35 in chips)
Seat 4: pomsa ($126.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Crazeology ($291.80 in chips)
Seat 6: jcatalystr ($80 in chips)
Crazeology: posts small blind $0.50
jcatalystr: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Martom2 [ ]
beta77: folds
Martom2: raises $2 to $3
eDD[19]~)L: calls $3
pomsa: calls $3
Crazeology: folds
jcatalystr: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Martom2: checks
eDD[19]~)L: checks
pomsa: bets $5
Martom2: calls $5
eDD[19]~)L: folds
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Martom2: checks
pomsa: bets $9
Martom2: calls $9
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
Martom2: checks
pomsa: bets $18
Martom2: calls $18
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pomsa: shows [ ] (high card Ace)
Martom2: shows [ ] (a pair of Nines)
pomsa is sitting out
Martom2 collected $71.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $74.50 | Rake $3
Board [ ]
Seat 1: beta77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Martom2 showed [ ] and won ($71.50) with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: eDD[19]~)L folded on the Flop
Seat 4: pomsa (button) showed [5d Ad] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 5: Crazeology (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: jcatalystr (big blind) folded before Flop

Mais quel fish...

mais pq tu as payer jusqu au bout????

le cash game reste une énigme pour moi .....

Quel intérêt as-tu à payer avec ta pocket quand ton adversaire insiste autant ?

Bon, d'accord, il était nul de chez nul mais t'avais des infos sur lui ?

ouai j avais des infos, c est pour ca que je le paye.Au flop je me dit je ne fais pas grossir le pot parce que mon 1er but etait de prendre les blinds. Quand je le vois miser 1/2 du pot je me dis il est a tirage(dans mes notes j ai : relance au 1/2 du pot avec un tirage, très agressif et quand il bleuf, il met de plus en plus en doublant sa mise a chaque carte qui vient).Il mise et je le vois sur 2 trèfles, alors je pars dans l' optique check/call pour le pousser dans un bluff qui peu rapporter gros si aucun trèfles viens.Pourquoi a cet endroit le relancer sachant qu il a un tirage et qu il misera pour moi?et si un trèfle vient je passe.Le roi arrive et il ne mise pas du tout comme si il avait touché sa quinte.Alors je paye... NON?????y a pas de logique?

avec tes notes c est certain , tu a super bien jouer le coup.
Mais bon sans savoir que tu savais ca sur lui, je ne comprennais pas ton call jusqu u au bout, mais maintenant oui.

LOL c est vrai que sans précision ca fait fish...
En fait j ai remarqué (maintenant c est peut etre pas la logique) mais en une session de 3h de cash, de bonnes notes très précises et vérifiée par trois fois, peuvent te permettre de remporter 1 ou 2 gros pot (1/2 de ton stack de départ).Bien sur il faut que t ai le mec avec les notes (mais moi je note leur nom et puis je les recherche quand ils jouent.Chacun sa technique....

PokerStars Game #19611393312: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/08/14 - 12:28:15 (ET)
Table 'Fringilla II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Korss ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 2: Kenny Kendoo ($32.50 in chips)
Seat 3: makabe3 ($25.45 in chips)
Seat 4: PiS.Juliam ($55.90 in chips)
Seat 5: Martom2 ($35.50 in chips)
Seat 6: schnolf ($24.80 in chips)
Korss: posts small blind $0.10
Kenny Kendoo: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Martom2 [ ]
makabe3: calls $0.25
PiS.Juliam: folds
Martom2: calls $0.25
schnolf: folds
Korss: calls $0.15
Kenny Kendoo: checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Korss: bets $0.75
Kenny Kendoo: folds
makabe3: folds
Martom2: raises $1.25 to $2
Korss: calls $1.25
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Korss: checks
Martom2: checks
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
Korss: bets $3
Martom2: raises $4.75 to $7.75
Korss: raises $14.65 to $22.40 and is all-in
Martom2: calls $14.65
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Korss: shows [ ] (a straight flush, Nine to King)
Martom2: shows [ ] (a flush, Ace high)
Korss collected $47.35 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $49.80 | Rake $2.45
Board [ ]
Seat 1: Korss (small blind) showed [ ] and won ($47.35) with a straight flush, Nine to King
Seat 2: Kenny Kendoo (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: makabe3 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: PiS.Juliam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Martom2 showed [ ] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: schnolf (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #19611426872: Tournament #100869248, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/08/14 - 12:30:11 (ET)
Table '100869248 53' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: markgraigott (1180 in chips)
Seat 2: Martom2 (2195 in chips)
Seat 3: 7InDaHole7 (1910 in chips)
Seat 4: nutty02 (2530 in chips)
Seat 5: stronz (1545 in chips)
Seat 6: build11 (1405 in chips)
Seat 7: cesboo (4155 in chips)
Seat 8: KC91 (2175 in chips)
Seat 9: SirFrizza (2365 in chips)
SirFrizza: posts small blind 50
markgraigott: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Martom2 [As Ah]
Martom2: raises 200 to 300
7InDaHole7: folds
nutty02: folds
stronz: raises 1245 to 1545 and is all-in
build11: calls 1405 and is all-in
cesboo: folds
KC91: folds
SirFrizza: folds
markgraigott: folds
Martom2: calls 1245
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Martom2: shows [ ] (a pair of Aces)
stronz: shows [ ] (three of a kind, Queens)
stronz collected 280 from side pot
build11: shows [ ] (high card Ace)
stronz collected 4365 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4645 Main pot 4365. Side pot 280. | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: markgraigott (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Martom2 showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: 7InDaHole7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: nutty02 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: stronz showed [ ] and won (4645) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 6: build11 showed [ ] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 7: cesboo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: KC91 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SirFrizza (small blind) folded before Flop

Martom2 a écrit:

ouai j avais des infos, c est pour ca que je le paye.Au flop je me dit je ne fais pas grossir le pot parce que mon 1er but etait de prendre les blinds. Quand je le vois miser 1/2 du pot je me dis il est a tirage(dans mes notes j ai : relance au 1/2 du pot avec un tirage, très agressif et quand il bleuf, il met de plus en plus en doublant sa mise a chaque carte qui vient).Il mise et je le vois sur 2 trèfles, alors je pars dans l' optique check/call pour le pousser dans un bluff qui peu rapporter gros si aucun trèfles viens.Pourquoi a cet endroit le relancer sachant qu il a un tirage et qu il misera pour moi?et si un trèfle vient je passe.Le roi arrive et il ne mise pas du tout comme si il avait touché sa quinte.Alors je paye... NON?????y a pas de logique?

Si c logique sauf à la fin dans ton raisonnement tu penses qu'il est à tirage ici tu dis meme à trefles,alors pourquoi pas une surrelance apres la rivière??

Parce que: y a quand meme une certaine forme de crainte qu il ai touché son roi ou un 9 meilleur kicker.Et ce qui a aussi c est que Pourquoi je risquerais qu il me surelance a tapis en bluff que je ne puisse payer.Par exemple quand tu fais un value bet, tu dois tenir en compte ( si tas la position) que ton adversaire peut te surrelancer en bluff et ca tu peux pas payer.Alors contre un mec suragressif pas de value bet mais un check pour david slansky et moi...Donc je dirais une crainte qu il me bluff sur ma surrelance...voila

ok

PokerStars Game #20038616221: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/08/31 - 11:55:23 (ET)
Table 'Landi' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: poseidon9 ($19.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Martom2 ($104.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Geeves08 ($192.60 in chips)
Seat 4: jonerboner ($78.30 in chips)
Seat 5: SanPio ($79.95 in chips)
Seat 6: mloerres ($98 in chips)
poseidon9: posts small blind $0.50
Martom2: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Martom2 [Jd Qd]
Geeves08: raises $3 to $4
jonerboner: folds
SanPio: folds
mloerres: folds
poseidon9: folds
Martom2: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [7h 8h 9d]
Martom2: bets $5
Geeves08: raises $10 to $15
Martom2: raises $15 to $30
Geeves08: folds
Uncalled bet ($15) returned to Martom2
Martom2 collected $36.60 from pot
Martom2: shows [Jd Qd] (high card Queen)
Martom2 said, "lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $38.50 | Rake $1.90
Board [7h 8h 9d]
Seat 1: poseidon9 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Martom2 (big blind) collected ($36.60)
Seat 3: Geeves08 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: jonerboner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SanPio folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mloerres (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

je trouve que c est une belle main car ma relance a 5$ avait pour but d etre relancée pour que je puisse surrelancer pour assurer mon bluff

PokerStars Game #21475947150: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/10/25 5:31:19 ET
Table 'Menelaus' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: cwirek1982 ($57.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Martom2 ($55.70 in chips)
Seat 3: DQS80 ($63.40 in chips)
Seat 4: GrabYaGun ($29.25 in chips)
Seat 5: busto4sure ($190.55 in chips)
Seat 6: WREED!@ ($70.90 in chips)
busto4sure: posts small blind $0.25
WREED!@: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Martom2 [ ]
cwirek1982: folds
Martom2: raises $1.50 to $2
DQS80: folds
GrabYaGun: folds
busto4sure: raises $5.50 to $7.50
WREED!@: folds
Martom2: raises $12.50 to $20
busto4sure: calls $12.50
*** FLOP *** [ ]
busto4sure: checks
Martom2: bets $25
busto4sure: folds
Uncalled bet ($25) returned to Martom2
Martom2 collected $38.50 from pot
Martom2: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $40.50 | Rake $2
Board [2s 9s 3h]
Seat 1: cwirek1982 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Martom2 collected ($38.50)
Seat 3: DQS80 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: GrabYaGun (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: busto4sure (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: WREED!@ (big blind) folded before Flop

tu avais intérêt en effet à bien la cacher celle-là... lol

PokerStars Game #21858789931: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/11/08 9:33:34 ET
Table 'Ulysses V' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: nmjoas ($51.80 in chips)
Seat 2: MARC 753 ($100 in chips)
Seat 3: pennyyy ($21 in chips)
Seat 4: Martom2 ($159.50 in chips)
Seat 5: RAW-poker91 ($28.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Rennwurm ($110 in chips)
Seat 7: ArmyJunk ($44.80 in chips)
Seat 8: notontilt09 ($110.15 in chips)
Seat 9: JoeIngram1 ($129.05 in chips)
Martom2: posts small blind $0.50
RAW-poker91: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Martom2 [ ]
Rennwurm: raises $3 to $4
ArmyJunk: folds
notontilt09: folds
JoeIngram1: folds
nmjoas: calls $4
MARC 753: folds
pennyyy: folds
Martom2: calls $3.50
RAW-poker91: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Martom2: checks
Rennwurm: bets $10
nmjoas: calls $10
Martom2: calls $10
*** TURN *** [ ] [Qs]
Martom2: checks
Rennwurm: bets $40
nmjoas: folds
Martom2: calls $40
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
Martom2: bets $105.50 and is all-in
Rennwurm: folds
Uncalled bet ($105.50) returned to Martom2
Martom2 collected $120 from pot
Martom2: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $123 | Rake $3
Board [9h 2s 7h Qs 8h]
Seat 1: nmjoas folded on the Turn
Seat 2: MARC 753 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: pennyyy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Martom2 (small blind) collected ($120)
Seat 5: RAW-poker91 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Rennwurm folded on the River
Seat 7: ArmyJunk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: notontilt09 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: JoeIngram1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Avais-tu la cote pour payer?

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